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11th-Jan-2012 10:06 pm
new here! trying to "revive" my LJ, haven't used it in YEARS but am currently jonesing for some vegan friends. recently moved from CT to NC (military move) and feel so lonesome and freakish own here. the south is not so vegetarian/vegan friendly :(

tonight i was at a japanese restaurant I had never been to with a friend of mine. Don't you just love this: you ask if a million things have meat/fish/egg, ONLY order vegetables, rice, tofu dishes and still... something meaty ends up on your plate? Usually I can notice this type of mishap quite blatantly, but tonight I wasn't so fortunate. Order onigiri, which, as the menu described were simply "sticky rice balls, wrapped in seaweed, filled with seasoned miso." Yum, right? After eating most of the 2 on the plate, my friend picked out what appeared to be a tiny piece of meat. After asking our waitress (who still insisted it was meat-free) and then asking her to go in the back to check again, we found out I did, in fact, eat tiny bits of PORK. so gross..for so many reasons. </rant>

anyways, i'm mad/sad but over it. I'm not gonna stew over it because it's on their conscience, not mine. I might get a bellyache and feel gross but being negative and miserable is probably alot more unhealthy. Learning experience, right?

that's all for now. oh, and I'm also just starting the Insanity work out - any other vegans out there attempt this, in the past or present? Or planning to?! Could really use a buddy :) i'm blogging about my meals/experience too: http://www.daniellebaldino.com/?page_id=1526

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13th-Jan-2012 04:14 am (UTC)
I've had that happen, though more with family than a restaurant. They were like "oh yeah, these rolls are totally okay for you" and then I catch a whiff of pork in it.

"...there's meat in it."
"Oh, I guess there is. Whoops."

I mean, at this point, I avoid meat not only for ethical reasons, but I think that after abstaining for this long, it would get me sick. :/
13th-Jan-2012 04:57 am (UTC)
insanity is awesome!! do it! i usually had a banana or an apple or a green smoothie an hour before doing the workout. one time my aunt tricked me into eating chorizo. so gross. i was like, um this taco tastes like more than just beans. she was like oh yeah btw there's meat in it. i was like uhhhhhhhhhh
13th-Jan-2012 09:11 am (UTC)
You know what? I find it's often easier to tell people you have an allergy to meat, eggs, dairy. That way they KNOW not to put anything in your food. People are more afraid of having someone have an allergic reaction in their restaurant than they are of offending people.

Sad, but true, most people don't care that we're vegan.
13th-Jan-2012 02:10 pm (UTC)
I usually say that too, simply because often people don't know what "vegan" means. If I ask about eggs or dairy, they look at me with that "oh, one of those"-look and I'm not sure they take me seriously at all.

And explaining why I don't eat stuff every time I buy food is taxing.
13th-Jan-2012 09:07 pm (UTC)
Yep. They take you seriously if they think there's a chance of you getting sick and them getting into trouble.
13th-Jan-2012 08:38 pm (UTC)
Yesss, I often do the same. It's quicker to just say "no dairy" (if dairy is the likely culprit), they're more likely to pay it heed if they think you'll be sick because of it and .. I just don't care to get into a debate.
13th-Jan-2012 09:06 pm (UTC)
Yep! It's deceptive, but it gets the job done. People don't care if it's an ethical decision, but if they think you'll get sick, they're worried about being sued!!
16th-Jan-2012 03:05 am (UTC)
This is what I do. Thing is, I have a legit allergy to milk protein, so it's not too much of a stretch. I've luckily never encountered a problem when I bring it up this way. It is pretty sad when servers just don't care about a simple request, so we've got to lie about our needs. :/
13th-Jan-2012 02:09 pm (UTC)
I have ordered vegetarian grape leaves and bit into one only to find that it had ground lamb in it on more than one occasion! I always always cut them open first and peek inside now. So horrifying.
13th-Jan-2012 02:25 pm (UTC)
I moved from CT to NC nearly two years ago. We live in the RDU area, so it hasn't been difficult at all to be veg. If you don't mind me asking, where did you relocate to?
14th-Jan-2012 09:30 pm (UTC)
hi! im an rdu vegan too!
13th-Jan-2012 02:46 pm (UTC)
Hey, another NC vegan here. My guess is you're not in the western part of the state? I know some animal liberation people in Raleigh and two around Greensboro. Keep looking, maybe check Happy Cow and meetups to see what you can find.

Also FB can be helpful for finding people at times. From FB I know of two vegans way out on the east coast of NC. Let me know; I'd be glad to get you in touch with them.

Oh and -- no, I am not doing any freaking workouts for the new year, except yoga ;)
13th-Jan-2012 09:28 pm (UTC)
Which of our state's lovely locales are you in? Fayette-nam? Golds-boring? I've not yet heard a witty name for the location around Camp Lejeune, which does not preclude the existance of one.

First off, avoid Food Lion. I get comments like "but margarine doesn't contain dairy" there. Kroger's are less bad. If you can manage shopping at a Lowes Foods or Harris Teeter, you'll have more grocery shopping options. Lowes and HT, at least where I live, carry a reasonable assortment of meat analogs, TVP, quinoa, etc. My part of the state does not have Bi-Lo, so I can't really speak to them much except to say they are a member of the Stop & Shop chain, so if you have any experience of a positive nature with Stop & Shop (I'm originally from MA) you should be able to reasonably expect similar from Bi-Lo.

If you have opportunity to get to Chapel Hill, take it. I don't much make it to Chapel Hill (it's 45-60 minute drive for me), but your vegan options there will absolutely be better, just based on the type of residents there, than more rural places. Similar with Durham, though only if you'll be in the vacinity of Duke. The rest of Durham is largely a dirty hole and should be avoided at all costs. Downtown Raleigh has options too, again because of the presence of NCSU and the population around it.

I know Raleigh has at least one good sized Asian market, and you might want to visit should the opportunity present itself. It's on South Sanders, aka 401, aka 70/50, about 1.5 miles south of I40 (I want to say exit 298), in a shopping plaza that will be on your right (assuming you're heading south) behind a Chargrill and a Taco Bell. I think it's called A&C market. I'm sure there are similar and probably even better markets in Chapel Hill, but Raleigh is a much shorter drive for me, so that's what I know. There's a large Hispanic market not too far from A&C, but I've never been.

Raleigh also has an awesome coupon blogger who, while not veg*n, is very veg*n friendly. She dislikes the texture of meat a lot, and is always excited when she finds an awesome deal on tofu or Boca, even if most of her readership thinks it's weird. She posts the best deals on produce, as well as deals on stuff I don't think are food whether you're vegan or not (I'm sorry, you cannot convince me Velveeta is food). You take what you can from it. Her research helps when deciding where I'm going to shop. http://www.wral.com/5onyourside/smartshopper/

13th-Jan-2012 09:33 pm (UTC)
I find that many employees in Asian food restaurants don't realize bonito flakes aren't vegetarian. I'm not sure if it's a cultural thing or what, but it's kind of like they don't comprehend that fish is meat.

I always pretend I am allergic to all meat/fish/dairy just to play it safe because they seem to be more responsive when they could get in trouble.
14th-Jan-2012 09:33 pm (UTC)
I'm a military spouse, and used to live around Camp Lejeune. It was before I was vegan, but if that's where you are, it may be tricky to find things in any restaurants. There's a Harris Teeter in New Bern, which is pretty nice. And I didn't shop for stuff like that in the commissary at Lejeune since I wasn't vegan yet, but the commissary where I live now actually usually has a few good options (it's one of the only places I have found earth balance and veganaise).

SO yeah... good luck finding any vegan things to eat if you are in that area. It doesn't surprise me at all that people would be clueless about the food not actually being vegan.
15th-Jan-2012 04:25 am (UTC)
Have you checked happycow.net for veg*n eats near you?
18th-Jan-2012 03:34 am (UTC)
Hey, it's great to meet you! I'm in the process of reviving my LJ habit and new here as well.
I hear you. After years of being vegan you'd think we would have figured out a way to make it clear to people in one sentence, but somehow the concept still seems to be difficult to grasp for many. (I've been asked if I eat grapes.) These days when eating at new restaurants, I tend to just confirm very clearly that there are "only vegetables" in the dish. You'd think that would cover it, wouldn't you... but no. The strangest things still turn up on our plates! Your attitude sounds very healthy, though. Veganism is a lifestyle; it's part of who we are, but as soon as it turns to an obsession that can be quite dangerous. The idea is to continue making compassionate, healthy choices, and it sounds like you're doing that 100%. Stay positive!
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