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verdict on soy milk? other lactose-free milk? 
21st-Sep-2013 07:30 pm
Hi all,

I hear mixed things about soy milk, and I'm not sure if I should have this as a dairy substitute or not. I'm still new to the diet / transition part of veganism, but being vegetarian all my life, the main things that I've had to work on are dairy. And sometimes it's strange to find for example, ice cream or yogurt containing egg or gelatin - so weird to me! Anyway, I'd like to hear your thoughts on soy - IF I am not allergic of course, how many servings of soy milk is 'safe' or are the dangers of soy not true? It seems that for women it can be a danger, because it mimics the estrogen hormone, but I don't think I'm in any danger of that, or having excess estrogen...

Does the same go for other soy products, like soy beans, tofu? The only thing that's frustrating is the fact that, if I'm out, at say a café with friends, I have to pay extra for the soy milk in my coffee or tea, and I never understood that...

Anyway, I am allergic to tree nuts but I can handle coconut milk. I just wanted to incorporate soy milk more, but only if it was safe and healthy to do so. Thanks everyone!
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23rd-Sep-2013 10:19 am (UTC)
I just wrote you a personal email, but to respond to your question about protein here. There are so many vegan foods with protein that if you eat a variety you will get enough. Broccoli, quinoa, oats, buckwheat, brown or wild rice, chickpea flour or chickpeas, all other beans, tofu, tempeh, seitan (vital wheat gluten), nuts and seeds, spinach, granola cereals, soy milk, etc all provide good sources of protein. Also, the more you eat beans or vegetables the more your body will adapt and the gas and bloat will eventually go away. It just takes time. Introduce these foods slowly if you haven't eaten a lot of them as an omnivore. Here is some good advice about how to make beans more digestible also:

http://www.savvyvegetarian.com/vegetarian-advice/eat-beans-without-gas.php

I wish I had time to tell you all the things you could do with beans, such as dips, cheese making, adding to baked goods, burgers, and on and on but I have to get ready for work. There is such a variety of them and so many things you can do with them I never tire of them. They are important for their iron, calcium, protein, and fiber so don't dismiss them completely. Just add them in slowly over time to get used to them. I snack on almonds and pumpkin seeds a lot too. 1/4 cup of pumpkin seeds has 7 grams of protein and 120 calories (the ones with the shell on) and healthy fats. Just one example of many. My omnivore husband had issues with my bean dishes for a while but even he is getting more used to them and doesn't have this issue anymore. I make a lot of bean soups pureed and I think this helps him too. Try white bean, carrot ginger curried soup sometime. Ummmm. Anyway hope this helps!
23rd-Sep-2013 05:21 pm (UTC)
"the more you eat beans or vegetables the more your body will adapt and the gas and bloat will eventually go away"

That was not my experience. I quit being vegan after two years of being basically housebound due to the bowel problems caused by eating a lot of beans, nuts and veg. I now eat a limited range of veg and no beans/nuts/seeds/wholegrains (instead relying on small amounts of meat/fish and lactose-free dairy for protein) and my symptoms are a lot better.

Tofu was always fine though. I think it's because the bean fiber is removed in the processing. Maybe OP could try that? Are there any other processed-bean products that aren't fibrous?
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24th-Sep-2013 10:41 pm (UTC)
wheat gluten is gluten, lol. gluten is wheat gluten (unless it's rye or barley, i guess). really not a huge ammount of difference there.

i'm surprised to see none of these people with digestive issues has mentioned probiotics. though it makes sense, since those things might help some.

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